So then, could we say that based on Psalm 11:5, God hates one while he is being wicked or loving violence but that He is not willing that they should perish but that they should come to repentance--a love for all mankind? What do you think?

For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. I see no qualification for either the extent of "the world," or for the limits of "whosoever."

In Mark 10:21 we find that Jesus, who is God the Son, loved the rich man who was moral but grieved about the requirements of Jesus. In response to the situation Jesus said to his disciples, "How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!" Is this man religious but lost? The love of money is the root of all evil. Nonetheless the text says that Jesus loved him.

I love it when people are willing to deal with the proof texts of opposing views! I despise arguments that only quote their pet verses! Thus I am enjoying this discussion because we are looking at both views. I like people who come to God's Word to see what God says.

''...when Rebecca also had conceived by one, [even] by our father Isaac; (For [the children] being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated." - Romans 9:10-13

A few more verses on love: Beloved, let us love one another; for love is of God and everyone that loveth is born of God and knoweth God, and he that loveth not knoweth not God for God is love. 1 John 4: 7, 8. God is love. But we still have to deal with our verse in the Psalms. Jesus asked the Father to forgive his crucifiers. His reasoning was that they didn't know what they were doing. Why would the Son use any of his energy on asking the Father to forgive what appear to be wicked men who love violence. Did Christ know that they were not really wicked men loving violence; but ignorant men doing their job? What do we do with Psalm 11:5?

Okay, we have 2 verses: John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life. And, Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us. How do we reconcile these verses? Psalm 11:5 still says, But the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Okay I will begin.....God hates wickedness, and sin, but Since John 3:16 says that "God so loved the world..." I would say, "Yes," he does love everyone. He howver hates our sin and the sin of those who are not saved. But God loved us before he sent he only begotten son to die for us. He loved us when we were still sinners.

Let the discussion begin! :)